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	<title>Comments on: Establishing a new method of float containment</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://jhop.me/css/css3/establishing-a-new-method-of-child-float-containment/comment-page-1#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking we need a dedicated property for this for a while. There are many times when I need to use overflow purely for it&#039;s ability to expand containers around floated elements - but the catch kills designs as I can&#039;t then position things outside of the box without clipping. Even text-shadow succumbs to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking we need a dedicated property for this for a while. There are many times when I need to use overflow purely for it&#8217;s ability to expand containers around floated elements &#8211; but the catch kills designs as I can&#8217;t then position things outside of the box without clipping. Even text-shadow succumbs to it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://jhop.me/css/css3/establishing-a-new-method-of-child-float-containment/comment-page-1#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, it appears you&#039;ve missed the point of the post :)

99.9% of authors require a parent to encapsulate it&#039;s floated child(ren), by default. Unfortunately, without utilizing one of the hacks I speak of in the post, this doesn&#039;t happen. Therefore, the aim of the article is to describe present methods that authors have been forced to adopt in order to achieve their intention, and to also an offer informal proposal in the form of a new control, whose primary attribute is to contain floats in the way that BFCs currently do, whilst exibiting no other behavior. There are other modules that will supersede the float model, so the proposal of a new control should be seen as an interim solution, until it&#039;s realistic for authors to adopt these new modules.

If you don&#039;t believe there&#039;s an issue, then I suggest participating in &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Dec/thread.html#msg326&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of the current discussions&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ww-style@w3.org&lt;/a&gt; and voicing your opinion there, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, it appears you&#8217;ve missed the point of the post <img src='http://jhop.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>99.9% of authors require a parent to encapsulate it&#8217;s floated child(ren), by default. Unfortunately, without utilizing one of the hacks I speak of in the post, this doesn&#8217;t happen. Therefore, the aim of the article is to describe present methods that authors have been forced to adopt in order to achieve their intention, and to also an offer informal proposal in the form of a new control, whose primary attribute is to contain floats in the way that BFCs currently do, whilst exibiting no other behavior. There are other modules that will supersede the float model, so the proposal of a new control should be seen as an interim solution, until it&#8217;s realistic for authors to adopt these new modules.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s an issue, then I suggest participating in <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Dec/thread.html#msg326" rel="nofollow">one of the current discussions</a> on <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/" rel="nofollow">ww-style@w3.org</a> and voicing your opinion there, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://jhop.me/css/css3/establishing-a-new-method-of-child-float-containment/comment-page-1#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering why you are looking for a solution to a non-problem. Float does exactly what it&#039;s intended to do and, personally, I&#039;m fine with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering why you are looking for a solution to a non-problem. Float does exactly what it&#8217;s intended to do and, personally, I&#8217;m fine with that.</p>
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